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Player: Wade

A3 PID: 215c1dc9b8961e87ee676167ace704f6

TS3 ID: eFjfQqX7SbkHHtVQJWnopkxRna0=

Length: 30 Days

Reason: Racism

Processor: Impulse 9

 

User was warned by multiple members via teamspeak to stop with racist remarks. User continued to argue to be allowed to speak and act in such a manner after multiple warnings.

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I utilized the word twice, the whole conversation went towards the argument for about ten minutes before I9 entered. There was humor in the conversation between all parties. When I9 entered, he warned me to not say it or he would ban me. I said okay. He then asked me how many times I had been warned, I said twenty, he then said he would see me in a month. The only defense that was being had about speaking in such a manner was all humorous and the whole ban from my perspective was way way way overblown.

 

I apologize for utilizing the word. It was irresponsible of me and I used the word impulsively. I did not intent to offend anyone and was not aware that it had became that huge of an issue. I will avoid using the word in the future.

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Wade was being immature in the teamspeak and I issued a warning for him to stop being immature. I had a discussion with him on maturity and using context/vocabulary and to stop trying to be edgy or use slang to invoke a reaction while participating in discussions. I don't consider Wade to be racist or intent on personally attacking members. Wade needs to understand his audience and consider the advice of others and how his actions affect them. I think the ban should be reduced and Wade should issue an apology and pledge to heed the warnings of others who are trying to help him and improve his actions on teamspeak.

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So to be clear, you were warned twenty times (by your own admission) and continued to use it to the point that I had people contacting me when I was not online to deal with this?

How could you have been warned twenty times for saying something twice? If you only said this twice, why did I have people contacting me when I was not active, over an extended time to deal with this.

Of the people that asked me to deal with it, they stated that others had already warned you but the actions continued. Is this not the case? If warned twenty times, again by your own admission this seems to fit.

 

Was your intent anything short of trying to disrupt or annoy people in a conversation? I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but your own admission of how many times you were warned gives me little room to allow you to continue to participate in the community.

How do you see your actions fitting in with the community or continuing to have any place in the community at any level in regards to our Charter, specifically the very first line @ 1.1.

If you feel this action is overblown can you please give me reasoning for how my reaction, or allowance of this sort of behavior should be tolerated, and by which specific individuals I can allow this to go unchecked?

Do you feel Donors and Regulars can be somehow excempted, or minors? Should I allow guests or the random new player to be allowed to act in this manner? Or just people that may have played here in the past, since they have some sort of history in the community?

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I used it twice, the discussion was brought up as if I needed to be warned twenty times. I was initially confused by this ban because I said I did it twice. The best example I can give is as follows: team killing once, getting warned by the same person multiple times for the one kill, but because he warned me multiple times and I didn't do it again, I get banned. That is the scenario that pretty much happened. I was being honest with you because the Chinook sponsored politics channel changed into the Chinook sponsored warn Wade 20 times for a 2 time scenario.

 

 

Why did I have people contacting me when I was not active, over an extended time to deal with this.
Of the people that asked me to deal with it, they stated that others had already warned you but the actions continued. Is this not the case? If warned twenty times, again by your own admission this seems to fit.

 

 

I was not the only one using the remark, multiple people used the remark, maybe that is why you were told this over an extended period of time. I did not continue the actions once the discussion started. I only said one thing which I repeated from another user, when I told someone that they were being niggardly towards me in the debate, which was a way to use rhyming word, but I used it truly and was serious about my point. I used it because I felt as if I was not being treated generously because I was not the only one conducting such behavior. It doesn't make it right for me to do so, I'm just trying to explain the scenario.

 

 

Was your intent anything short of trying to disrupt or annoy people in a conversation?

Yes. I made real points pertaining to politics during the discussion. I impulsively used the word once, almost like when we use the word 'fucking' in a sentence, and intentionally a second time when asking why we needed to make a big deal and derail from the discussion.

 

When I used niggardly, I was intentionally trying to annoy Darksidesix, which I do on the regular, and generally we both get a kick out of it. Its not excusable, but that was my intent at the time.

 

How do you see your actions fitting in with the community or continuing to have any place in the community at any level in regards to our Charter, specifically the very first line @ 1.1.

 

I do not believe that the general behavior is acceptable in the community and in general the atitude shouldn't be used. The users in the channel weren't new, it was a barracks channel, and I did not at the time believe that speaking without thinking was going to spark a riot. In hindsight I misjudged.

 

 

If you feel this action is overblown can you please give me reasoning for how my reaction, or allowance of this sort of behavior should be tolerated, and by which specific individuals I can allow this to go unchecked?
Do you feel Donors and Regulars can be somehow excempted, or minors? Should I allow guests or the random new player to be allowed to act in this manner? Or just people that may have played here in the past, since they have some sort of history in the community?

 

 

I feel like the discussion that happened was enough, when you entered the channel, it was already nearing the end. You came in angry because you had to deal with shit that you shouldn't have to. From my perspective, you didn't have to be bothered, as there was already a regular there that could of banned me or taken care of the situation, I believe that the derailing of the initial conversation was unnecessary, and it should have been a simple 'don't say it again 2 minute warning.

 

I don't believe that Donors or Regulars should be exempted from rules, I support the charter as it is written, and have no intent on changing the rules at this time. Minors should not be exempted. You should not allow guests to act in this manner. People that have played in the past should not act in this manner.

 

I misjudged the situation by being too comfortable with the people I was having a discussion with.

 

I apologize for my actions, I did not intent to offend anyone in any way, it was unintentional racism, and it was taken harshly. My actions are not excusable, I can only ask for the forgiveness of my actions and would hope to move from this. I want to apologize to all of those that had to be part of this, and had to step in.

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Your attempted use of niggardly is invalid as it is meant to be used in relation to volume/quantity/portions, any use of it in regards to generosity is in relation to the that specific use.

Your general understanding of trying to use that word, was simply to disrupt and annoy any attempt at valid conversations.

I would strongly urge you not to use any words you do not have a firm understanding of in any serious conversations, be them in public or on the internet.

 

Thank you for your explanation after the fact, it has helped to clarify many of the points I have concerns over.

I am glad you have a general understanding of the points that I have raised and brought up.

I am glad to hear that I do not need to rewrite any of the preexisting rules of the community at this time.

 

Pending any clarification on why you had to be warned twenty times, for using racial comments twice, and then "attempting" to use rhyming words inappropriately with direct intent to disrupt or annoy any active conversation from happening.

I will be leaving this ban in its current state unless anyone else that was witness/present or reported the actions that took place can clarify any misunderstandings, or bring any additional context to the report.

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Pending any clarification on why you had to be warned twenty times, for using racial comments twice, and then "attempting" to use rhyming words inappropriately with direct intent to disrupt or annoy any active conversation from happening.

I wasn't truly warned twenty times, I was giving a comparison on how it felt that way because the whole conversation turned towards that topic.

 

The attempt to rhyme words was intentional and I did it with the intent to make others laugh. I didn't disrupt any other conversations because the whole conversation was about this topic.

 

I apologize for doing this and it was wrong of me.

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